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		<title>By: Michael Flicek</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Flicek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cole,  

I&#039;ve admired your work for a while now. The Auschwitz project was particularly innovative and intriguing.  Whatever your are doing you should keep on doing.  This includes your adherence to the philosophy of individualism promoted by Ayn Rand through the character of Howard Roark!  

I must admit, however, that I find Ayn Rand&#039;s philosophy to be a bit extreme and self-indulgent.  Personally, I find that the work of others, including yourself, has much to offer, as I proceed with my journey, without any particular destination in mind, along the road of personal development as a fine art photographer.  

I get to Ft. Collins many times each year.  Perhaps we could discuss this some time over the excellent apple pie at the f/stop cafe?

Michael Flicek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cole,  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve admired your work for a while now. The Auschwitz project was particularly innovative and intriguing.  Whatever your are doing you should keep on doing.  This includes your adherence to the philosophy of individualism promoted by Ayn Rand through the character of Howard Roark!  </p>
<p>I must admit, however, that I find Ayn Rand&#8217;s philosophy to be a bit extreme and self-indulgent.  Personally, I find that the work of others, including yourself, has much to offer, as I proceed with my journey, without any particular destination in mind, along the road of personal development as a fine art photographer.  </p>
<p>I get to Ft. Collins many times each year.  Perhaps we could discuss this some time over the excellent apple pie at the f/stop cafe?</p>
<p>Michael Flicek</p>
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		<title>By: Cole Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cole Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 01:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Name: Steven Dempsey
Email: disjecta@gmail.com
Website: http://www.flickr.com/photos/30858857@N06/

Great post Cole. It got me thinking about my own creative journey and how much the opinions of others mattered to me.

As much as I would have people believe that I am immune to others&#039; approval, I would be less than honest if I said it didn&#039;t matter. What I can say with absolute certainty is that it matters less in my life at this moment, particularly because my confidence as an artist is at a higher level.

I think it&#039;s pretty much established by therapists worldwide that if our motives to express ourselves are only to appease others, then success will always be elusive. That is to say that if I am creating photographs because I&#039;m catering to what I know people like, then I will churn out material that is mediocre at best. While it may be great art to some, I know from experience that I cannot reach my full potential as an artist unless I am at one with my own vision and to hell with what anyone else thinks.

I&#039;m not suggesting that we become egotistical fools wearing arrogance on our sleeves but I am saying that you must express your vision from within, not without. It took me 45 years to find myself and when I did, I began to produce my best work.

For a long time people would say that I needed to find a style because I didn&#039;t seem to have one. Most of this was a necessary process of experimentation and discovery to find out what it is that inspires me. 

I spent too long trying to find that style and what I learned was that a style cannot be found. You grow into it. Your style becomes you. If you give yourself over completely to your art and let it emanate from your soul, you will reach your full potential.

As arrogant as Howard Roark appeared in the Fountainhead, in my mind he had actually attained creative enlightenment by refusing to be encumbered by outside influences and simply expressing himself in the purest sense possible.

So that&#039;s what I thought about when I stumbled upon your blog this morning. I am gearing up for a trip to Ireland to see my family for Christmas and today I will go to the bookstore and by a copy of the Fountainhead. It will be good to revisit this story with new eyes and a great way to kill 16 hours to boot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Name: Steven Dempsey<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:disjecta@gmail.com">disjecta@gmail.com</a><br />
Website: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/30858857@N06/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/30858857@N06/</a></p>
<p>Great post Cole. It got me thinking about my own creative journey and how much the opinions of others mattered to me.</p>
<p>As much as I would have people believe that I am immune to others&#8217; approval, I would be less than honest if I said it didn&#8217;t matter. What I can say with absolute certainty is that it matters less in my life at this moment, particularly because my confidence as an artist is at a higher level.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s pretty much established by therapists worldwide that if our motives to express ourselves are only to appease others, then success will always be elusive. That is to say that if I am creating photographs because I&#8217;m catering to what I know people like, then I will churn out material that is mediocre at best. While it may be great art to some, I know from experience that I cannot reach my full potential as an artist unless I am at one with my own vision and to hell with what anyone else thinks.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that we become egotistical fools wearing arrogance on our sleeves but I am saying that you must express your vision from within, not without. It took me 45 years to find myself and when I did, I began to produce my best work.</p>
<p>For a long time people would say that I needed to find a style because I didn&#8217;t seem to have one. Most of this was a necessary process of experimentation and discovery to find out what it is that inspires me. </p>
<p>I spent too long trying to find that style and what I learned was that a style cannot be found. You grow into it. Your style becomes you. If you give yourself over completely to your art and let it emanate from your soul, you will reach your full potential.</p>
<p>As arrogant as Howard Roark appeared in the Fountainhead, in my mind he had actually attained creative enlightenment by refusing to be encumbered by outside influences and simply expressing himself in the purest sense possible.</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s what I thought about when I stumbled upon your blog this morning. I am gearing up for a trip to Ireland to see my family for Christmas and today I will go to the bookstore and by a copy of the Fountainhead. It will be good to revisit this story with new eyes and a great way to kill 16 hours to boot!</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tremblay</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Tremblay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful piece, Cole!  It&#039;s exactly what I needed to hear right now.  This will be my new mantra.  Maybe there&#039;s something to this Rand-ism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful piece, Cole!  It&#8217;s exactly what I needed to hear right now.  This will be my new mantra.  Maybe there&#8217;s something to this Rand-ism?</p>
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		<title>By: Debbe</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great read, why ask or not to ask...it was just recently that I started a new group and am committed to its mission of seeking out the merits of another&#039;s work. I feel confident enough about my own to do just that and feedback says the extra time and work is worth it. Good photographers who submit to the group are surprised that someone would take the time to write more to the long list of accolades and awards and finally add something meaningful.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/danceswithlights/ is the group and I issue no apologies for my own self proclaimed status as a almost totally content  with their work photographer. You deserve that peace, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great read, why ask or not to ask&#8230;it was just recently that I started a new group and am committed to its mission of seeking out the merits of another&#8217;s work. I feel confident enough about my own to do just that and feedback says the extra time and work is worth it. Good photographers who submit to the group are surprised that someone would take the time to write more to the long list of accolades and awards and finally add something meaningful.<br />
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/danceswithlights/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/groups/danceswithlights/</a> is the group and I issue no apologies for my own self proclaimed status as a almost totally content  with their work photographer. You deserve that peace, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilly Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilly Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 11:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if you believe in yourself and your work then external validation isn&#039;t necessary. However, feedback can be useful in other ways.  I don&#039;t often ask for opinions on my work but when I do, I only ask those people whose work I like and respect and who I know will give me their views in a balanced and constructive way, even if they don&#039;t actually like what I&#039;ve done.  Constructive feedback can help you improve and give interesting insights and I wouldn&#039;t want to isolate myself from this completely, although ultimately I aim to make the final decision.

However, I think you make a great point, Cole, and one that more of us could do with taking on board. Creativity is really about the process and not the end result - if people enjoy the end result that&#039;s a bonus, but if you&#039;ve experienced joy and fulfillment in the creation of it, that&#039;s even better and all that really matters in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if you believe in yourself and your work then external validation isn&#8217;t necessary. However, feedback can be useful in other ways.  I don&#8217;t often ask for opinions on my work but when I do, I only ask those people whose work I like and respect and who I know will give me their views in a balanced and constructive way, even if they don&#8217;t actually like what I&#8217;ve done.  Constructive feedback can help you improve and give interesting insights and I wouldn&#8217;t want to isolate myself from this completely, although ultimately I aim to make the final decision.</p>
<p>However, I think you make a great point, Cole, and one that more of us could do with taking on board. Creativity is really about the process and not the end result &#8211; if people enjoy the end result that&#8217;s a bonus, but if you&#8217;ve experienced joy and fulfillment in the creation of it, that&#8217;s even better and all that really matters in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerry Toler</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerry Toler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 00:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We can all deny it...but we do like warm fuzzies. At the same time we want to be independent. Must be a balance in there somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can all deny it&#8230;but we do like warm fuzzies. At the same time we want to be independent. Must be a balance in there somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 04:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like John&#039;s idea of asking &quot;what is success&quot; too.  Speaking of pleasing people, I was disappointed that my entries in our yearly local &quot;contest&quot; received only one honorable mention from the photographer who was the lone judge this year.  Then a couple of weeks later I got a call that one of my photos was People&#039;s Choice...so the judge didn&#039;t care for them, but others did...I wish I didn&#039;t care, but it does feel good when your work gets a good response in others!  It seems that everything in life needs the right balance, and that&#039;s how I try to look at photography...I care what others think, but my goal is to have fun and please my own tastes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like John&#8217;s idea of asking &#8220;what is success&#8221; too.  Speaking of pleasing people, I was disappointed that my entries in our yearly local &#8220;contest&#8221; received only one honorable mention from the photographer who was the lone judge this year.  Then a couple of weeks later I got a call that one of my photos was People&#8217;s Choice&#8230;so the judge didn&#8217;t care for them, but others did&#8230;I wish I didn&#8217;t care, but it does feel good when your work gets a good response in others!  It seems that everything in life needs the right balance, and that&#8217;s how I try to look at photography&#8230;I care what others think, but my goal is to have fun and please my own tastes.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, I thik a discussion on &quot;what is success?&quot; is an excellent idea!  

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, I thik a discussion on &#8220;what is success?&#8221; is an excellent idea!  </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John Suckling</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>John Suckling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not as deeply into photography and artistic expression as you (Cole) and others who have commented but can I suggest that in the end the question to be answered is &quot;why should I take photographs&quot;. Maybe the next question is &quot;what would success look like to me&quot;. To find the answers we have to look inward AND outward - no person is an island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not as deeply into photography and artistic expression as you (Cole) and others who have commented but can I suggest that in the end the question to be answered is &#8220;why should I take photographs&#8221;. Maybe the next question is &#8220;what would success look like to me&#8221;. To find the answers we have to look inward AND outward &#8211; no person is an island.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerry Frank</title>
		<link>http://www.photographyblackwhite.com/mentors/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thought Cole.  I&#039;ve always been the independent sort who doesn&#039;t need validation from others to feel worthy.  Some call it egotistical, I just feel it&#039;s self confidence.  The images I make are not for others to like or dislike but if they do I am honored.  Keep up your work, I have told several people about your site and what type of images you seek to create.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thought Cole.  I&#8217;ve always been the independent sort who doesn&#8217;t need validation from others to feel worthy.  Some call it egotistical, I just feel it&#8217;s self confidence.  The images I make are not for others to like or dislike but if they do I am honored.  Keep up your work, I have told several people about your site and what type of images you seek to create.</p>
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